Motivator: Gangs Growing In Rural Areas And A Word About LEOs

A Deputy Sheriff (we’ll call him Deputy Prepper) sent me a link via the blog to a very interesting article.  Take a moment to read and absorb it.  Then ponder its main points:

  • Gang related crime has grown as much as 25% in 2011 in Tennessee – much of it in rural areas.
  • Gang related crime has tripled in Tennessee since 2005
  • From 2005 to 2011, cities with fewer than 50,000 residents saw gang crimes rise 232%

This quote grabbed my attention: “But rural towns often have small and sometimes ill-equipped police departments, which can make the communities vulnerable and attractive to young criminals trying to dodge larger cities with more sophisticated gang units. Also, gangs find rural areas to be full of eager, new drug customers and devoid of competition from other gangs.”

I’ve stated before I believe that the first real and credible threat after SHTF to rural communities will be from gangs roaming outside of the cities and towns after they have either been picked clean or when the challenge to their dominance becomes unfavorable.  Given the fact that they already have their own tribe assembled NOW time will not be on the rural communities side.  I did a bit more digging and found some rather startling facts from the latest unbiased* report published in 2010.

  • In one year (2009-2010) Gang related homicides in rural areas increased 12.4% nationally despite the overall gang related homicide statistic decreasing 3%.  Rural areas are making up for the larger cities.
  • Small cities (under 50k) and rural areas account for over 36% of gang related activity in 2010

Rather startling when you think about it.   But the article above and the statistics reinforce one idea – If you fail to pay attention and collect Intel on gang activity in your area you’re probably ignoring a credible threat.

* The 2011 FBI report has been criticized as being lenient on a lot of the traditional militant black gangs and separatists as well as understating the threat from radical Muslims and their presence in the Narco-Cartels.  It has also been criticized for overplaying the “homegrown extremist” threat posed by Constitutionalists and Libertarians. It’s statistics in regards to rural communities has been shown to be flawed. 

Now my second point.  Remember I said a Deputy Sheriff sent this in via the blog.  I see a lot of blogosphere types mouthing off about how Law Enforcement is a tool of the machine and they’re going to target them all, etc.  I’m drawn to a conclusion about quite a few of these types of folks.  I’m pretty convinced they don’t live in a rural area and their comments show their lack of understanding in what rural law enforcement is and how it works.   Sure you read about “Sheriff’s Deputy shoots family dog” but how often is that in a rural area?  And folks – Austin isn’t rural.  If your house is 20 feet from your neighbors you aren’t rural.  Just because you have a backyard garden doesn’t make you rural.   Around these parts the Sheriff’s Office (SO) has been pretty aggressive busting the meth trade.  I have no doubt it’s an uphill battle but they have yet to conduct a mistaken raid, point a firearm at anyone that wasn’t armed and breaking the law, shoot someone that wasn’t shooting at them first, or kill a dog that wasn’t foaming at the mouth with Rabies.  YMMV.

And here’s my point.  Just because someone in the blogosphere has an experience or story in Bugtussle WV don’t take it for granted it applies to your area as well when it comes to LEOs unless you live in that area.  Get to know them, use them for intel, and form your own opinion as to whether they are “nefarious actors” or not.  Have and use some common sense.  You focus should be local.


About Treaded

Semi-retired career and contract troop. I own and maintain my own small ranch out here in beautiful rural America.
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19 Responses to Motivator: Gangs Growing In Rural Areas And A Word About LEOs

  1. Agreed and posted.

    • Ferd berfle says:

      The gang threat is already occurring in texas. Houston inner city gangs are going out about an hours drive to attempt the rob, pillage, and plunder areas about a hour up 290. The country police summarily deal with them in a professional community policing manner. That being said, there are a number if ville’s in texasvwhete the sheriff or his family has intimate ties to the drug gangs or cartels reps in his/her AO. So take it on a case by case basis. Problem identifiers such as local senior LE daughter being a crack whore, senior local LE’s chips son being a multi pound crack dealer, gay, transvestite, local TFO cousins being cartel-ites, local LE office manager hiring tens of illegals to work the grounds and offices, etc. need to be published.

  2. MuchoGusto says:

    I live in WV, (not far from Bugtussle) and yes, drugs and gangs are a growing problem. And the LEOs in my county are professional courteous peace officers, right up to the point it is time NOT to be nice.

  3. Adobe_Walls says:

    Sheriffs are elected police are hired.

  4. @adobe your rirght the Sheriff is elected. He hires his Deputies and Ive been hired by both

  5. Rich Tich T says:

    For the most part a majority of the county sheriff’s are good. But as you said, with the creep of the 2-5ac “ranchette” that is becoming quite common and the pull of “country” living sweeps more people, living in the sticks sometimes means you still get the big city treatment.

    • Treaded says:

      Rich ya know I don’t know if those even qualify as rural. Most of the ones I have seen are still connected to nearby city water and sewer systems and have HOAs that forbid any real agricultural endeavors or private wells and septic systems. When you have a six acre plot (3×2 which is 660’x440′) what you really have is an “decompressed suburb”. Better than having houses 20′ apart and granted when SHTF you can tell the HOA to go to hell but without a well or a septic system you might as well be living in the burbs. I have seen cities extend their limits to encompass those areas as well to increase their tax revenues.

      • Rich Tich T says:

        I know. That is not being in the country. But for those who “move to the country” they have that false sense of security thinking they are away from big city lights.

        Small cities are expanding at a scary rate. Lufkin, Tx is a small town of 35k people in 2010 and in the last 18 months have expanded their southern city limits by 2 miles.

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  7. Glenn Allen says:

    There are good cops and bad cops in every department. It is always best not to generalize people. I am from a small rural county in Tennessee, Cocke County, Known for it’s corrupt law enforcement throughout the state. Don’t take my word for it look it up. Just one of many articles you can find. Does this mean that all the cops are bad here? Nope, some of them are good people, Same goes for just about every government institution. My point? Think for yourselves, gather the facts from primary sources, do your research and come to your own conclusions. Stop being sheep.

  8. My friends and I have thought much about gangs and other criminal elements leading up to TSHTF, and during such a time, it’s severity yet to be determined. I am also former LE. The thing about the Law is that it often protects the criminals from having to answer for their deeds, or a better way to cut to the chase is it protects them from US. I would expect that criminals would see such a scenario as a bonanza, a field day, etc. but in reality they will be dealt with- if they persist- swiftly and with extreme VOA. These gangs and criminal elements have never had to deal with the enormous network of good, mostly God-fearing, very capable citizens out there with skill sets way beyond what they perceive because they have never been truly put in “check mate”. People are fed up with the justice system, the erosion of our nation’s fabric, and the sociopathic tendencies of more and more of these predatory-type creatures that give animals an unfair rap.

  9. John Venlet says:

    In regards the subject of sheriffs, here’s a post from March, with links, pertinent to the subject of your post. Howdy, Sheriff.

    • Adobe_Walls says:

      Excellent links. Alan Stang’s article speaks to my point above. Sheriffs are elected and like to be re-elected and are as good or as bad as we choose for them to be. We get the governance and in this case the protection we vote for.

  10. Mark Matis says:

    When the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office, the Orange County Sheriff’s Office, the Osceola County Sheriff’s Office and the Miami-Dade Police Department are ACTIVELY INVOLVED in helping the Tampa Field Division of BATFE run weapons to supporters of former president Zelaya in Honduras, and then refuse to answer Congressman Gus Bilirakis’ questions about the operation, do you consider them to be “good” cops? Are ANY “Law Enforcement” officers in those agencies “good cops”? Remember that EVERY one of them swore an oath to the Constitution. Or do you think that even at this point, they merely DON’T KNOW what their Brothers in Blue have done?

    My standard is that ANY “Law Enforcement” officer who works in an organization that has officers assigned to a Fusion Center is a pig. Fusion Center map here:
    Any “Law Enforcement” agency within an hour’s drive of those locations have officers assigned. And they were volunteers. NOBODY had to force any one of those pigs to sit cheek-to-jowl with their FedPig brothers and plot against those who long for a Constitutional goverment. And if one works in an agency with those bastards and does nothing…

    There are indeed plenty of “Law Enforcement” agencies that do not meet the above criteria. Some of them may actually have honorable officers working for them. If you have some of those in your AO, Out-Fucking-Standing! But do be aware that simply being a small agency out in the boondocks does NOT guarantee they are honorable men and women. And also note that taqiyya is not uniquely Muslim.

    • Treaded says:

      And that is why I wrote this: “Get to know them, use them for intel, and form your own opinion as to whether they are “nefarious actors” or not. Have and use some common sense. You focus should be local.”

  11. Shrugger says:

    Treaded, another brilliant and important post. Know your AO and know your LEO. And rural is not a panacea. Message received.

  12. RegT says:

    Here locally, the deputies in the Sheriff’s Office are – for the most part – OK. The local police are the opposite – badge heavy, “Us vs them” types who have forgotten who they work for and how they should be treating people.

  13. True enough but please beware of the rule of small numbers (and the rule of large numbers for that matter). 265% seems like a huge jump but if your basis is say, 3 crimes now we’re talking about 8 crimes. Well within standard variance expectations — i.e., a fluke at the moment that bears watching. The worries in my rural Pennsy AO comes from long-standing motorcycle gangs, roving “gypsies” (Travellers) and migrant workers.

  14. Dennis says:

    From my rural location I have a den of gangsters a mile and a half up the road in the middle of nowhere. Yes we have had the leos shooting folks in their own homes cause they got word they were drug dealers….ya they got the word from drug dealers. We have also had leos shot just for pulling a guy over. Nasty world. One thing I know is some local businessmen got their start dealing drugs…and probably still do. Look at Prohibition for the clue. History repeats itself.

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