I was sent a link to this article by Jim Karger titled “When they come for your guns… you will turn them over” and I felt bound to reply. Jim is a lawyer living in Mexico and probably has little to no contact with the real population of the nation and almost assuredly has never met an Oathkeeper, III%’er, Patriot, and probably has little contact with Veterans. Take the time to read the article. This is my open rebuttal to Jim’s article.
“Jim after reading your article you miss the 500 lb. gorilla in the room. Those vehicles may roll down the street, and the powers that be may try to take our arms. But ya know what? There’s a couple of million plus of us. And conveniently distributed among those millions in growing numbers are something that every Law Enforcement Officer is scared shitless of – a determined individual that believes in the Constitution. Make no mistake – once the government decides that the Second Amendment is no longer valid the vast majority of firearms owners believe the government will no longer stop at anything to subjugate them. We vastly outnumber the combined total of all Law Enforcement Officers. We know where they live, where they shop for their groceries, etc. For them such an action would be like fighting an insurgency in Iraq or Afghanistan without the protection of COBs or FOBs.
You also make the assumption that troops will blindly obey orders to kick down Americans doors and seize their arms by force. Let a career soldier clue you in on something: If the situation like you depict had ever arose and a senior Officer had ever given the order to open fire on or disarm Americans in their homeland (even in the face of the insurrection Act being invoked) I would have had my troops take his sidearm and relieved him. If he resisted I would have put a bullet in his face. Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines aren’t stupid robots and they’re not going to blindly follow orders. You can make the argument “But they do it in Iraq/Afghanistan/etc!”. Yeah they do and that’s not America amigo. What those troops would be asked to do is enforce the will of government on their own – possibly violently. Guess what? Not going to happen. What it would accomplish is creating the conditions favorable for mass desertions and possibly even a coup. I’ve known quite a few high ranking Officers in my days (and still do) that truly believe the military has the duty to “Support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic“. You want to see something spectacular? Give an unconstitutional order like the type required to execute the goals you have stated to one of my long time associates (currently a Brigade Commander) with whom I’ve had a conversation on this topic. He’s going to smile and then turn around and point the might of that Brigade straight at you while telling his troops something akin to “We have a duty to support and defend the Constitution and the orders we have been given are unconstitutional”. I’ll guarantee you almost to the man every troop under him is going to follow that lead because it’s legally and morally correct and it sparks a reminder for them of the oath they took when they signed up. Senior Officers aren’t stupid amigo and they know given the probability of their troops not following or even actively resisting an order they’re not going to even try it. Think about it: You want Sergeant Jones to take his squad into action after a couple of his guys brothers, cousins, fathers, etc. have been shot, killed, or arrested by forces doing the same thing the government wants them to do? At best all you can really hope for is that they’ll sit it out and then I wouldn’t count on it.
That brings me to another point that you have sorely overlooked. You see Jim some people spend the majority of their adult life in the military. Some get out after a few years. Some spend their entire careers training and honing the skills to fight and have actual experience that has honed those skills. That population includes not only regular troops but special operations veterans as well. A conservative estimate would be there’s thousands that still take their oaths seriously – and among them is a large percentage of experts capable of training an insurgency unlike anything ever seen on the planet. Bring all of the technology you want – helos, armor, drones, it doesn’t matter. Guys like me are all over the population and have the skills and experience to interdict those systems. Are we the threat? Nope – the people we’re going to train would be. You can scream “That’s illegal!” and yeah it is. But you would have already made us all criminals by implementing an unconstitutional law. Some men (and women) so strongly believe in freedom and liberty that they will resist. And given that the atrocities you would have to execute to reach the goal of complete disarmament would make those numbers consistently grow. It’s all Insurgency 101.
Jim there’s yet another thing you fail to consider : a little thing called a Rubicon. And it’s not just neo-con as your article implies. Ever notice how when the government starts beating up the First Amendment almost every sector of the public gets outraged? There’s millions of firearm owners in this country and granted a portion of them would sheepishly hand their firearms in. But just as in Australia the majority wouldn’t. You’ve failed to realize firearms ownership isn’t a partisan topic. It isn’t conservative, it isn’t liberal, it isn’t even libertarian. It’s American. I have the great fortune to have a fairly large circle of good friends that are firearms enthusiasts. Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Straight, Gay, Atheists, Christian, male, female, it doesn’t matter. The topic of what your article implies has invariably come up and we always address it the same way: “You can have OUR guns when you pry them from OUR cold dead hands” because we realize there is strength in unity.
In closing I offer this – we are not a threat until the government makes us so. So continue to sit in retirement in Mexico amigo comfortable in the fact that there are a LOT of us that ain’t playing that ballgame. We didn’t take an oath and serve our nation for nothing.